From Douglas Avenue, the patriotic red, white and blue sign that hangs in the window at Rogers Linen Services, Inc., looks like another innocuous campaign sign around town.
But, wait. Look closer. It contains a strong message to the president:
"I built this business without gov't help: Obama Can Kiss My Ass."
Owner Karen Rogers said she is just saying what a lot of people and small business owners want to say, but don't for fear of retribution.
She said anyone can order the signs online and customize the message.
"You can have 'butt,' 'fanny' ... but I prefer 'ass,' " she said.
"He had no right to say that," she said, referring to President Barack Obama's controversial "You Didn't Build That" speech in July. ("If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen," Obama said during a campaign speech in Roanoke, VA, citing investments in roads and bridges and saying "somebody along the line gave you some help.")
Rogers knows exactly who built her laundromat and linen rental service business.
"I built this business," she said, adding that she's never gotten government help of any kind, not even from the city of Dunedin, in the 26 years she's owned it.
Obama has a campaign appearance at the Seminole campus of St. Petersburg College on Saturday morning. About 1,500 people are expected to attend. Obama gave a campaign speech at Florida Auto Exchange Stadium, which is across the street from her business, in 2008. Rogers wore her McCain-Palin shirt that day.
Since putting the sign on display two weeks ago, Rogers said she's received mostly support. Some cops have even stopped to have their photo taken with it, she said. A few people have joked with her about it, including the U.S. Postal Service worker on his route.
"It's misspelled," he yelled jokingly from his truck in the parking lot on Friday morning. "It's supposed to say 'I'd kiss Obama's ass.' "
"Get outta here, you Democrat," she hollered, then walked over to give him a high five.
DLC
9:06 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Good for you. Will stop by to see you when we come down for the winter.
Obama, the Mrs., Biden and his Mrs. were here in NH yesterday. The papers say 6000 came to hear him speak. More like 2500 at the most.
I am proud that someone from my winter hometown has the guts to speak up.
Congratulations!!!
Glyn Carver
2:53 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
When the only way you can oppose someone is by deliberately misunderstanding his statements, then you have a fundamental problem of honesty and intelligence. I look forward to the time when your parents lose their social security check and die prematurely because they have no health coverage. I want to see you refusing to accept any client who drive to your establishment on the public roads and I would like to hear that you have reimbursed the government for the cost of educating your staff. Then, I will take your nonsense seriously. In the meantime you will excuse me if I conclude that your stupidity is merely thinly-disguised racism!
Sahara
3:25 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Glyn: I can empathize with you in your frustration in trying to talk to people about what we see as self evident truth, such as "we all need each other", but you have to remember the old Indian expression that you can't teach a pig to sing. It annoys and disturbs the pig and it frustrates you.
BethS
7:34 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Glyn...Oh the racism card. No one under any plan is turned away from health care. The difference is the bill you get at the end. Who wants to take away health coverage from parents?....What we are getting now is that we are being forced to buy it. The option is there now and always has been. I purchase my own, and yes that is with a pre-existing cancer on the policy. I do have a choice to find a job that offers it, but I enjoy what I do and purchase it. I don't want to be told I need to buy it or have to tell my employees they are required to buy it. It is crap insurance. Why do you think Congress is exempt from the gov't plan?
Bill T
9:04 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
BethS, please read pages 80-81 in section 1312 of the Affordable Care Act. This sections specifically requires members of congress to purchase their health insurance on one of the exchanges setup under the Affordable Care Act. they are not exempt from the Act.
You are not forced to buy insurance, you can opt out and pay the tax.
Bob Hackworth
9:06 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Context is important. There is plenty of space here to run the President's full quote.
"Look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own. You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet."
Maryellen Farinas
11:51 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I know who I'm not voting for either!
Janet Emery
12:20 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Amen Bob. Thank you for clarifying that.
Charles Smith
3:01 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Nobody's taken Obama out of context. Every single talk radio host on the Right has played the full clip of what he said. Not only did he dismiss hard work and intelligence as luck ("there are a lot of hardworking/smart people out there"), but he then went on to say, "If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
Need more context?
Sahara
3:09 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Charley, it has nothing to do with context or out of context. We all know that the President meant we are not alone in anything we do and need each other to survive. Now if you want to twist this in your mind, you have another agenda than the success of all of us.
Karen Riegle
6:05 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
You just lost my vote.
BethS
7:20 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Sahara..It does have to do with context. He is the President of the US. When dealing with foreign nations the excuse "you knew what I meant" won't fly. Just like when he signed off on a platform with God and Isreal taken out of it. Then says "you know that is not what I meant" It was forced back in on an illegal (not 2/3 vote) because he needs the Jewish people to win.
Postal Worker
11:34 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Bob I suppose you also think that mayors and congressmen help the average american too!!!! If that was the case then the majority of products would not say "Made in China." From the Postal Worker.
Dee Dokumaci
4:30 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Good observation Postal Worker, our nations biggest problem "Made In China" everywhere we go there is that label which is ruining our nation well I am doing something about it by refusing to buy anymore products for my boutique that has that label, I had a woman stop by my boutique the other day who wanted to sell some merchandise first thing I asked her was where it is made of course she said "Made in China" my answer sorry not interested & she had a nerve to tell me our company can't afford to make it in the USA because it cost too much to produce, this kind of mentality is not acceptable & it is time to take back America, the only way Employment will get better is if there are factories producing "Made In USA merchandise, I have a list of companies that are strictly made in USA & I support them, yes it does cost more but I am happy in knowing it is 300% better quality than the infamous China label!
Victor
8:01 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Good morning all, all I can say is wow, never thought a silly little banner would generate so much. I have been called racist, stupid, bad business man. Some of you are so quick to judge, because you see an anti- Obama sign, you see a republican. What you don't see is it's about the government. The name of any other pres. would have been on there, had they said it. One comment said she thinks she did it by herself, but I her husband did part. We had help from all the suppliers, builders, machines, plumbers,etc. All of us little people work hard to build something. We give money to a government, that we the American people built. We never said we did it all on are own. We made the government, they didn't make us. The silly banner has brought in some new people, and there is one face that I miss. He openly cuts down republicans, calls them stupid, if he can't take one view against his then, sorry. This shows me how divided this country is, and thats a bad thing, we are all Americans, and we have to work together to keep it great. Some of you think that your side of the fence is the only way,no side is perfect. We have to keep an open mind, and whats best for the U.S.A. I'm an independent, have voted for both sides, and will always try to put in the best American to do the job for the people and this great country, thats where my heart is. This is all my opinion, and I respect yours. I hope you all have a great day. Victor Rogers
DLC
8:57 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Victor and Karen,
I hope your business thrives. I for one have great admiration for you both.
I do believe you that the sign would have gone up if Bush or any other President or Governor made that statement. Some people, including myself sometimes when I am not being open minded, just hate people that do not agree with them. I try to count to ten when i am faced with someone whose views are so radically different than mine. I try to remember that they think the same thing about me. That my views are radical. But thank God this is the USA and we can have these posts without the fear of reprisals. That said I hope the "FACE" you miss seeing in your business returns as a customer because you will both be the better for it.
Hang in there.
Brendan Tierney
9:06 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
But did she build the power grid that brings electricity to her business? Did she build the water and sewer system that brings water in and then takes it away? Did she build the roads that allow her customers to get to her front door? Of course she didn't, government did. It has been made very clear that that is what the president was talking about.
DLC
10:15 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Yes she did all of the above.
She paid the taxes that were used to build that.
The government only has money to spend from the taxpayers.
The President as usual is wrong.
tom maddalena
10:55 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
the point he was making was stupid admit it. the government didn't build the power grid... con edison in conjunction with their investors built it. the government regulated and taxes it. that's it. get real for once.
Charles Smith
3:07 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
The fact is, without the private sector, the govt could not build a dog house
Sahara
3:15 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Charley, you are absolutely right and without the government the dog would be killed by the faulty construction of the doghouse, built to save $. So we need both. Move to the middle boy.
Dee Dokumaci
2:53 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Well Brendan, no she didn't build the power grid & unfortunately neither did US, there are companies out there who are trying to build it but the main source at the moment is China http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2011/04/20/20climatewire-china-rebuilds-its-power-grid-as-part-of-its-72213.html?pagewanted=all
India http://www.powergridindia.com/ims/50-0001-002.aspx
Germany http://www.siemens.com/corp/en/index/corporate_info.htm
As for the water & sewer system all components associated with it are again made in China, the work was performed by a plumber which she hired, last I checked plumbers are privately owned companies who are also small business but lets not forget yes there are major plumbing chains which usually cost more therefore most of us hard working people prefer to give our money to a small business so that they can grow!
President Obama needs to thank us for paying our taxes produced through our hard work, it is with votes that he is in the White House for the last 4 years & if he wants to be elected for the next 4 years, it is time he showed his appreciation to all the taxpayers!
rick barasso
9:05 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Congradulations on owning a successful business. First the president NEVER said you didn't. He was refering to roads and bridges. Did you build the road in front of your place? Did you run the phone lines into your place? Did you build the cars that brought customers to your place? Could you do business without these things? Then in fact, you did not do it by yourself. You owe the president an appology. Maybe you should thank him for his tax cuts to small business owners. You might want to appologize to your customers, who truly built your business!
DLC
10:15 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Same reply to Mr Barasso.
Karen's taxes built the roads etc.
Cisco
11:18 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
We all know what the Socialist meant. I forget did he say that before or after he stole 716 billion from MediCare from the Elderly
Cisco
11:18 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
We all know what the Socialist meant. I forget did he say that before or after he stole 716 billion from MediCare from the Elderly.
Maryellen Farinas
11:50 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I guess now "you didn't build that, somebody else did" has a new meaning for liberals. Webster must be wrong!
Lara Gorlin Stewart Manetta
1:14 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
NCI ESS-
Did you really call someone a socialist in the same sentence where you complained about money coming out of a social program?
Gene C.
3:25 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
it is impossible to change the the mind set of the small minded... I do applaud Mr. Barasso and Mr. Hackworth for trying..
BethS
7:57 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Once again..what tax cut to small businesses? That is the catch phrase response, yet when I have asked repeatedly to name some no one does. The harder to I work to make my business sucessful and keep my 70 plus employees employed the only result I get is being hit with more taxes. Citizens and their tax money built up America. How dare you or anyone take that away from their hard work. Gov't just pulled it all together then took their cut just like a business.
Madalyne Warren
9:05 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
It amazes me how many times and in how many ways what the President said can be taken out of context. Guess some folk just hear what they want to.
Chuck Fortin
10:49 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Sometimes we can lose sight of those advantages that give a person a chance to be successful in whatever endeavor or enterprise for which she may have interest and talents. Life is a crap shoot. We are fortunate to be able to live our lives in the relative security of this country where we can strive for access to those things that enrich our lives. We have heard about or, for some of us, witnessed the poverty and misery that seem endemic in the tormented world. The comments of Bob, Brendan, Rick, and Madalyne have much validity in reminding us of how dependent and grateful we should be for the protection provided by our police officers and firefighters. Of course, we are responsible for doing the best we can with our talents, creativity, and initiative to make a better life for ourselves and our families. If we are lucky we overcome the possible disadvantages of our early life circumstances and upbringing. We face challenges and, if we have the right stuff and often the helping hand of others, may be able to achieve wondrous things. At the same time, some of this help may be "invisible" or not fully appreciated. Government agencies down the street support our entrepreneurship with access to water, sewerage, and electricity. What government does NOT do is also important. It does not allow you to operate in a firetrap and it does not allow a steel mill to set up adjacent to your property, or excessive noise during sleeping hours so you can work safely and profitably next day.
BethS
10:15 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Rick, of course she herself didn't build the roads and bridges her TAX money did. The roads and bridges are there for everyone but she took it upon herself and did something with it. That same opportunity exists for anyone!!! I came from nothing and also chose to build a business to take care of the needs of my family. I put my family planning on hold until I had enough money to not work 75 hours a week in it and be home to take care of my children. America needs to go back to personal responsibility. Today it is all about lobbying for a handout.
Brian Ross
2:18 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Her tax money alone didn't do it. Mine did too. Are you saying she didn't get my help? Were her taxes alone responsible for the infrastructure she's built on? No, they weren't. Next argument please.
Dee Dokumaci
3:27 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Let's educate ourselves on who built the roads, here's couple of sites which sheds a light on this subject....Enjoy Reading :)
http://curbstone.com/_macadam.htm
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/columns/private-highways-in-america-1792-1916/
Joanna D'Ordine
10:15 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Context is very important indeed. It sad when you only watch Faux news to get your information. His message was clear. You didn't build that building you are located at. You didn't pave that road in front of your business. Someone else did. Someone else lifted those bricks. Government funding and taxpayers helped fund the roads. You were assisted in some way. I was at the Obama rally in 2008 and I am proud to have voted for him. I am voting for him again in 2012! It scares me to think where this country would be if the Mccain/Palin ticket had won. BTW...Go Bob Hackworth!
Merrill
10:15 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
ANOTHER misinformmed citizen, now being applauded for her ignorance?
I am merely shocked that this publication did not see fit to mention this person's action is baded upon DISinformation and a lack of hearing and/or unmderstanding of what the President really said. Complete ignorance and dislike led to this action!!
Sadly there is nothing in this reporter's article that even alludes to the truth. WHY? PLEASE...if this is a news venue, may we have a little true news?
Bob Hackworth
9:14 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Merrill,
That was my point too. You said it much better.
Captain Howard Levy
10:15 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Great job Karen. Keep up the good work.
To the rest of you, when are you going to quit making excuses for Obama and his failures?
We all heard him and we know exactly what he meant. He had his chance and failed miserably.
luv beagles
10:37 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I agree with Karen.. Again, everyone, it is the taxpayer that paid for and is continuing to pay for the infrastructure that some of the above are referencing. It isn't the government that has to turn a profit, meet payroll,or suffer sleepless nights.The government can just break out the good old money printing press. It is the OWNER that has to endure the battles in addition to all of the governmental regulations that serve to only hinder not empower the entrepreneur. One more fact is that it is the private sector that funds the public sector, right? .So what happens if the private sector is further weakened? I think you know the answer to that question..
BethS
10:15 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Let's go to tax cuts on small businesses. Can you name any? The Health Care Plan is going to kill most small business including mine. I am in the service industry. Since we don't manufactor much anymore this is a huge part of our economy. We can not live anymore selling products at the same price or less than when I started 20 years ago. These jobs are important for High School students, retirees, or someone looking to supplement their income. They are entry level jobs. There is a reason for these type jobs. They are a stepping stone for the young or a bridge for someone to supplement their retirement. To implement the restrictions, fines and accounting fees alone on small business for this plan will put many out of business or drastically raise prices of the $5. almighty pizza, $.89 taco or and all $1. menu items the American people live on.
Lara Gorlin Stewart Manetta
10:39 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
The new healthcare law has tens of thousands of dollars in refundable tax credits for your business, actually.
Bill T
11:51 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Beth, does your business employee less than 50 people? If so, no impact to you. Quite frankly, I would be willing to pay a bit more (papa johns reports $0.11 more a pizza) so that all of us have access to healthcare.
Bob Tankel
3:42 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I employ 25+ people in Dunedin. My business has always provided employer paid for health insurance because it's the right thing to do. People with no insurance end up at the emergency room. That costs a lot, who do you think pays for that now? Taxpayers. Employees with health insurance tend to be loyal and productive and do not have to declare bankruptcy due to health care bills (about 35% of all bankruptcies fit this). My company will BENEFIT under ACA as we will get a tax credit because we did the right thing. People, there is no free lunch, we are ALL paying for health care now; making people buy PRIVATE insurance was a GOP idea under Hillarycare, what happened? Besides all of the foods you mention already are produced by corporate conglomerates with huge taxpayer subsidies to produce those "food-like" substances...
Jenny S
10:29 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Even in the full context, I think it still sounds a little condescending.
Jennifer Caldwell
10:29 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
What a classless citizen.
This is not news.
Cecilia
10:55 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Obviously a slow news day at the Dunedin Patch.
DLC
11:16 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Well if you are right about it being a slow news day let us hope for more of them.
A story about someone who is working and not one of the 5,400,000 new people on SOcial Security disability handouts that have been put on the roles since Obama came into office.
And I am not talking about people who are truly disabled. I am talking about someone who lives in the next state from me who after being released from serving 8 years in prison for abusing underage children filed for and received 100% disability payments.
Want to know what he claimed was his disability?
When he was in prison the sinks had no handles on them to turn the water on and off.
You put your hands under the faucet and the water came on. You know like the ones in store restrooms?
Well this person said this traumatized him and disabled him. Well he was approved on his first try.
So since Obama has not been an effective leader we need to elect Romney.
Chuck Fortin
11:18 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
It's lamentable (and not good business practice) that this enterprise, in its "KMA" campaign, successfully undermines the owners' lifetime of sacrifice and dedicated efforts over the years while jeopardizing its customer base with an ill-conceived "SMIF" rant ("shot myself in foot"). By firing up half, one runs the risk of alienating the rest. (If you lose some customers, remember, Obama didn't do it!)
Sahara
11:50 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
DLC...you are disturbed by people on SS disability but you are not bothered by Romney being on Social Tax Relief paying only 14% of his real share and denying us what else in not seeing his tax returns. This arrogance is what turns people off. I like firing people. Bet you $10,000. Really!
DLC
12:20 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I am disturber by cheats being on SS.
Sahara
12:28 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
DLC...I'm disturbed by cheats on income tax...see we have something in common...we're both disturbed!...now maybe we can compromise and get something done instead of cutting off our nose to spite our face.
Sahara
12:33 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Now DLC, we have to start dealing with facts here and good ideas. Our Governor Rick Scott, was disturbed by cheats on welfare on drugs. So he instituted a program to test welfare people for drugs and it has cost millions more than it saved. Let's not get carried away by a few people who cheat and eliminate services for the majority that don't. Isn't that how it should work, and isn't that good BUSINESS.
luv beagles
11:06 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Sahara, that 14% is also known as "capital gains". He did nothing illegal. His income was taxed at the lower rate because he took risks. Risk capital is treated more favorably than ordinary income like dividend taxation in the stock market; a.k.a. risk capital.. If Obama does away with capital gains taxation, then who is going to want to risk his/her own money to create more businesses since they are taking the additional risk of yes, losing it all. Do you not want to see further job creation? Look at Silicon valley and other huge corporations and entities that create jobs. Done with "risk capital".
Sahara
1:50 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Pam: Please don't try to patronize me. Having formed and sold several successful businesses over 40 years, I've forgotten more about business than you will ever know. We are talking morality here not legality. Even Sam Walton advocates a tax level where billionaires and millionaires don't get away with paying less than the middle class. The capital gains tax was apprx 4 times higher under President Eisenhower than now and that was when everything in this country was growing and booming. Let's just agree the rich have it better than they ever had and the poor and middle class have it worse. Let's just give a little to even things out instead of saying no, I want it all. When the poor and middle class have nothing else to lose, and they are approaching that point, it will be too late to learn from history.
M
11:50 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
A business I will not be spending my money at
Jasminetea
12:21 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
LOL! I'm sure this concerns them.
Obama bailed out the banks so they could work with small business, and guess what...the banks are still holding on to that money. Obama's "Making Homes Affordable Program" a total failure. Any business that is still in business in Pinellas county at this point is there because of blood, sweat and tears - not because there was any help from the government. So much for Hope and Change.
Jasminetea
11:50 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Rah for her! I totally agree and Elizabeth Warren can kiss mine also!
Bob Gallo
11:51 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Karen Rogers sure did do it now ;-)
Maryellen Farinas
11:52 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Roads are built with fuel taxes. Buildings and bricks are made by private business. The many hours ALL successful business owners work are their blood, sweat and tears. All those businesses that were built way before there was any infrastructure were built because of the talent and hard work of their owners and the, yes, government's help BY STAYING OUT OF THEIR WAY! Mr. Obama's hidden meaning and all of your hidden meaning for all of you who agree, is that if those business owners didn't build their businesses, the government did, the business doesn't belong to them. It belongs to the government. And do not kid yourselves that it would belong to the collectivity. It wouldn't. It would belong to those politicians who are in power.
Sahara
12:02 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Wow...You turned those words into the government wants to take over your business. Paranoia is running rampant here. Watch out for that SS guy behind the tree. The sky is falling......the sky is falling!
Dee Dokumaci
4:56 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Maryellen, I applaud your comments, yes it is blood, sweat & tears, all the hard work & determination for the success of our small businesses which some call it paranoia, how amusing :)
Sahara you must be in another planet, from where I am standing it is a beautiful sunny day in Clearwater & the sky is not falling, as for the imaginary SS guy behind the tree, I say to each his own, it's a free country, he has a right to stand behind a tree or on top of a building :)
Bill T
11:52 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
As previously mentioned, Karen built her business. However, she did so in a framework that allowed her to do so that was paid for by the taxpayer and administered by the big bad Government. Things like, a regulated banking system so that you can get a loan and pay your employees in a safe way. Roads that your customers use to get to your business. Safe regulated, affordable and reliable power grid. Educated employees through free public schools. Police protection, fire protection etc.
DLC
12:20 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
There are no FREE public schools.
The TAXPAYERS paid for them and pay to run them.
When will people realize that Socialism does not work.
And that is what we are heading for.
Bill T
12:33 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
DLC, of course they were paid for by the taxpayer, however, they are free to the user. Do you think that only those kids that have parents who can afford to pay for school should be able to attend? Where would that leave us as a society?
Sahara
12:51 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
DLC: I seem to detect some kindness behind all your toughness on "do it yourself" thinking. You wouldn't let any of those severely disabled babies, not aborted, and deserted, lay there and die. You would help them. See, a little bit of so called socialism is good for the spirit.
Sahara
12:20 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I'm glad all of you independent, don't need anyone else people can survive when we have an emergency such as a hurricane. Need water, electricity, help lifting your house roof off your car, maybe some food...oh, I know, you'll just build it yourself. If you can't see how ridiculous you sound and literally can't recognize the fact we all need each other then no amount of comments will help. You see you even need me so you can comment back or you have no conversation with just yourself....or maybe, oh oh, you don't.
luv beagles
11:07 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
And we the people, the taxpayers, still pay for it...
Dee Dokumaci
5:23 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Sahara, us small business owners have the intelligence to know that Florida is a hurricane state therefore we have business insurance that covers natural disasters, as for my house I live in a condo & pay condo management dues so that if my roof falls off condo management covers it, as for my car I have full coverage car insurance which covers all mishaps, comprehend this the insurance companies that service me are not government owned they are privately owned excellent companies that I pay with my hard earned money therefore I have the resources to take care of things but I do appreciate your generous offer to help each other out, good day to you :)
Sahara
5:42 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Dee...I hope you can throw money at any problem you encounter in your life. Someday you will realize the truth. This is why you can't find the empathy for the struggles of others who haven't the advantages you have.
Dee Dokumaci
6:07 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Sahara, us small business owners have the intelligence to know that Florida is a hurricane state therefore we have business insurance that covers natural disasters, as for my house I live in a condo & pay condo management dues so that if my roof falls off condo management covers it, as for my car I have full coverage car insurance which covers all mishaps, comprehend this the insurance companies that service me are not government owned they are privately owned excellent companies that I pay with my hard earned money therefore I have the resources to take care of things but I do appreciate your generous offer to help each other out, good day to you :)
Karen Lutzmann Mariscal
12:54 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Either all of her customers are republicans, using coin operated laundry machines...lol, or she is not the sharpest tool in the shed. She works her ass off for 26 years and then does this...freaking brilliant!? @ Bob anyone who supports stupidity wouldn"t have voted for you anyway. When is the campaign pub crawl??
Sahara
3:39 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
FINAL RESULTS: A_W_B_ You are the best of us. K.R. you are our mean self we don't like to see.
AL
5:27 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
My interpretation of our President's speech is that NO BUSINESS survives and expands without the blood sweat and tears of the workers that helped build it. His speech was an ALL inclusive speech, not a divisive one. The reality is this, NOBODY becomes wealthy without at one point or another exploiting somebody, be it by paying low wages, providing no benefits and vacations to the employees, undercutting the cost of supplies, polluting the environment. Let's be honest, the wealth of this country was built on exploiting the working class and the unsuspecting consumer as much as possible - that is why we need certain regulations and controls. Legally, businesses are not obligated to pay for any vacation, or holidays, or any benefits, and they can fire you for no reason whatsoever - EMPLOYMENT AT WILL that is what it means people.... President Obama is trying to change all of that in whatever small way he is able to. WHen our homes are devastated by a tragic event, or we have a child with special needs, or we become paralyzed in an accident and can no longer provide for ourselves, who can we turn to? Not long ago we could count on the government to protect us with confidence but not so much anymore because we keep cutting off essential services.... yes, FIREMEN, POLICE, NURSES, TEACHERS, SOCIAL WORKERS, LIBRARIANS, TRASH MEN, we need them ALL... we expect those services to be there in times of need but when we don't need them we call them GOVERNMENT WASTE...
Charles Smith
6:19 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
AL Creating an image of perfect societies - utopian images - can cause monstrous evil. In fact, forcefully changing society to conform to societal images was the greatest cause of evil in the twentieth century.
Bob Hackworth
7:17 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Again Mr. Smith, I'll give the full quote. "If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that (education system, unbelievable American system, roads, bridges) Somebody else made that happen."
Charles Smith
8:23 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
With all do respect sir the remark by President Obama shows a fundamental ignorance a misunderstanding of how businesses are started and run and the challenges that small business owners face.
luv beagles
11:13 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Bob,
You make a good point about a great teacher being a good influence on you. I would like to add
l that the first 'somebody" that should have been highlighted is the parent, not just the teacher in your life. There is too much credit given to the top down federalist influence on the individual when we live in a society where we "currently" have the freedom to try, freedom to succeed, or freedom to fail. Ultimately it is individual choice that decides success...
Dee Dokumaci
3:17 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
All due respect Mr. Hackworth, my small business got started when I discovered a hidden talent about myself (jewelry designer) it was all my hard work & determination that made my small business a success by working 6 days a week from early in the morning till late at night this went on for 6 years never once did I receive government assistance or a bank loan, it was my parents hard earned money, my mother being a fashion designer & my father being a doctor, we all paid our taxes which helped make the roads & bridges so Rose Garden Boutique's success is due to our hard work & determination, I resent anybody who tries to take credit for our hard work!
Thorough out history whether Democrat or Republican no President ever made such an unfortunate comment as President Obama did, this shows his lack of understanding what a small business goes through to keep alive, all the hard work that goes into it is taken for granted, how truly sad!
As for my thoughts on the poster at the laundry mat, I understand her frustration & admire her spunk but I feel using the a-- word was not a good idea, "Kiss My Grits" or something along those lines would have been more appropriate ;)
Sahara
4:41 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Dee...Just like Romney...your thought pattern due to you having recourse is hopeless to understand that most people can't go to their Doctor Father for money. I know you and Mitt are just lost on this concept but the arrogance displayed by Romney and others who can't understand why " all people need others" is more easily understandable to those who haven't had your advantages. You and Mitt can't understand why because you never had to go without food or a home to live in or your other accouterments. We understand why you are the way you are. We just ask you to have the good judgment to know that even with all your advantages, you still need others. Because if it is only you in the world, it will become quite lonely.
Linda
7:19 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Politics aside, I’m confident that when our founding fathers blessed us with freedom of speech, they expected us to behave with more decorum.
Linda
7:23 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
It makes me think of Jeff' Foxworthy's old tag line. Karen, HERE'S your sign.
PK
8:18 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Turn on your tap and water comes out, water from the same source as what comes out from everyone's tap? Socialized water, that's what that is (living for a while in a place (outside of the USA) where there was no public water is what awoke me to this bit of obvious truth). Someone commits a crime and you call the police, the same police who serve and protect everyone else? Socialized protection (you call "the police", not "your private protection crew", right?). You drive to work on a road built and maintained by workers paid via your taxes combined with everyone elses? Socialized transportation. The Armed Forces we are all so grateful to as they fight to keep us safe? A massive government program of socialized national protection, that's what that is (still think the government can't run anything?).
Government is one way we do things together. It is a force that can do great good or great evil. It is a force that needs to be harnessed, controlled, and used responsibly. It is not the source of all problems, nor the source of all solutions. If government disappeared tomorrow, this would not make life some rosy heaven. We would be Somalia, or worse.
We (and those who came before us) did build this society together, the good and the bad. We also make individual contributions and achievements, such as running businesses. Both are important to our country, and pretending otherwise is a blindness that will only do us harm, as individuals and as a society.
BethS
10:22 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Nicely put, PK.
PK
12:56 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Thanks
June Kovac
12:04 pm on Sunday, October 28, 2012
PK,Well said,and Bob,as usual your ability to hone in on the point of the issue is why you will once again,make a great Dunedin mayor! You have my Vote. Divided we fall,United we stand.
Bob Tankel
11:16 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Thanks, now I know who not to patronize; you want an internet build it; you want a road to get to to your store, build it, you want police to protect what you made "on your own" hire and train them. If you want to be free of government interference, move to Somalia and open your little business, you can hire your own army to protect what you built on your own and see of you can keep it from the marauding hordes. Good luck, I'll [pitch in the first $10 to help you move where you can be "free."...since Lord Obama has made this country so bad, don't let the door hit you on the way out.....
Carolyn Powell
9:40 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I have an idea. All business owners across the country should close their doors, eliminate all the jobs and services they provide, stop paying all their taxes and then we'll see how many new roads and bridges are built and how many police and fire officials remain on the payroll. Then all these ex business owners can get in line for their hand out.
Charles Smith
9:52 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Well said Carolyn.
Carolyn Powell
9:53 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Oh ya, let's see. Without the business owners funding the hand out programs, their won't be any gov't money left for them. Hmmm.
Carolyn Powell
11:11 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
As I read through all these comments, it is apparent that our "leader" has succeeded in further dividing our country. Think about it...what was the true purpose of his statement? Will there ever be a day again when we have a leader that understands the importance of uniting the citizens of this country, rather than dividing? We are all in this together. What is his true reason for the division he is creating?
luv beagles
11:19 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I think you know the true reason, Carolyn, and I agree with you..
PK
12:39 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Tough to do much uniting when a sizeable percentage of the country are so dead-set against you that for them reality means less than feeling.
There are people who truly believe Obama is a secret Muslim communist from another country, nevermind that "Muslim communist" makes no sense. Recently, I had someone tell me that after the election, a clause in Obamacare will kick in to create a new 1% tax on all financial transactions (credit cards, checks, etc.). Look it up, she said. I did; it's a nonsense chain email thing. But she believes it's true. I've heard people say the reason Obama hasn't tried to take guns away from people is that he's trying to deceive us into thinking he doesn't want to take guns away from people. I could cite similar things about raising taxes, "death panels", etc. It is enough to make your head hurt.
Now people are twisting one uncharacteristically awkward turn of phrase (he should have said "those" instead of "that"). They take that phrase as a sort of poker tell, a confirmation of what they already believe he secretly thinks, no matter what he really says or does.
People tend to believe what they want to believe. Not everyone who is against Obama's re-election believes the things I've talked about, but many do. And politicians and talk-show hosts are more than willing to pander to them. Yes, Obama being elected has exposed a big division in America, but (can't resist), he didn't build that.
Carolyn Powell
12:50 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
After all your rambling, you have neglected to answer the question. What was the purpose for his statement?
PK
1:15 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
You raise a question: "What was the purpose for his statement?"
I'll let Obama speak for himself, without interpretation. His own summary at the end of his comment was:
"The point is… is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."
Charles Smith
4:27 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Obviously infrastructure and education promote business success. Taxpayers did pay for that. What do we know about this President? What is he thinking? Look at his past and influences that tells the tale in his own words. Love him or hate him you don't know him. See the movie 2016.
Sahara
5:17 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Please don't repeat the "intro" of the ad for the movie. How do you like the Michael Moore movies?....See!...Same genre! Quit being duped. The sky is not falling and you don't have to be afraid of things out of your comfort zone. People who are different than you and think different thoughts do not have to be destroyed or converted. Their unique qualities make you special.
Charles Smith
5:48 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I never mentioned destroying people who are different than me. Where did you see that in my post. That was way out there.
Sahara
5:56 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I'm sorry Charles, I thought you saw the movie you were pushing.
JAN
5:41 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
I'm wondering how many of your customers that made your business a success are Democrats??? Do you tell them to "get out"???
Cecilia
6:51 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Simply making an apoIitical observation here... But at this point "get out" probably will not be necessary.....Not go in will probably be the more obvious reaction.
Charles Smith
6:17 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Sahara I did see the movie. The comment about me destroying people has nothing to do with the movie, Is your comment an a attempt to discredit my opinion by name calling?
Sahara
6:27 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
You read what your want to make up about my comment. If you think this movie is about bringing people together and not destroying them, I understand.
Charles Smith
7:39 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Amazing, I did not make anything up, Your comment is characterized by delusions.
Sahara
8:11 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
You're right...I'm delusional. You're pushing a movie that tries to tell people the President, who you called ignorant(and you're upset at name calling,see your previous posts) is basically a terrorist who wants to set up a United States of the Mid East because he is somehow drawn collectively only to Muslims and he wants to set up a 100% tax system here among other crazy things. This stuff preys on paranoid people who think the sky is falling and that people different than them are their enemies. It plays on made-up fears of people who think everything is threatening them because everything is about them. Keep up you replies because you're proving my case. Oh yea....and I'm delusional. PS If you can read my original post, you will see it is in reference to the movie NOT you. But if you have to be right. OK, I'm delusional and the stuff in this movie that you believe in is reality. Just by chance, try taking an objective approach and read some independent reviews not politically tainted by either party and see what they have to say in regard to this movie.
Charles Smith
9:08 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
To quote you Sahara " Quit being duped. The sky is not falling and you don't have to be afraid of things out of your comfort zone. People who are different than you and think different thoughts do not have to be destroyed or converted. Their unique qualities make you special."
Sahara
6:56 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Thank you...you are always right!
rick barasso
8:55 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
Here's the simple question to those on the right:
Did she build the business BY HERSELF, without the HELP of other "taxpayers, construction workers, washing machine manufactures, utilities companys, customers, advertising people, automobile workers etc. etc.?
If she can say yes she did it without their help, then she truly is an amazing person. If her answer is no, then she agrees with what the president said. In which case she owes the president, Patch readers, and her customers an apology...
rick barasso
9:00 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
It's not suprising that Ms. Dolac would even put in such an article in her publication. She has made it clear, what her political leanings are. If you wonder if this is true look back, 2 weeks ago the RNC was covered every day and in a positive way. Then look at the Patches of last week. See how many, if any mention of the DNC is contained in the Patch.
Ms. Dolac, your political idealogy is showing......
DLC
10:49 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
I'm sure the fact that the Republican Convention was next door in Tampa had a lot to do with the amount of coverage in the Dunedin Patch.
One of the purposes of upbeat stories about events happening in the Dunedin/Tampa is to promote our area to entice people to visit the business's that so desperately need customers since the economy is so bad.
I find the coverage in the Dunedin Patch very fairly balanced.
rick barasso
12:00 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
DLC
As is the case with about everything else you wrote. YOU'RE WRONG!
Please don't be offended, you're not alone. And considering where I'm sure (by your comments) you get most of your information from, it's understandable why you feel this way. We can only hope that before to much damage is done, some of you will learn the truth and realize, YOU'RE WRONG...
Sincerly
Rick
rick barasso
12:41 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
PW
The milage deduction rate in the 1st half of 2008 was 50.5 cents per mile. The rate as of 2011 is 55.5 cents per mile. Someone needs a new accountant! Excellant point though, so karen was wrong when she implies she did it by herself. Every taxpayer helped her by paying more in taxes so she could take the milage deduction. So the president was right after all...
rick barasso
3:30 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Jewlery maker
READ! He said nothing to take away from your hard work. I won't bother repeating whats already been written. Just read and think if a road was ever used in your business. If yes then he was right..
Dee Dokumaci
3:28 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Corrected version!
You're right he said absolutely nothing about hard work, when I discovered my hidden talent, I was on vacation overseas went into a bead shop & bought some supplies then started creating jewelry where I lived overseas then sold what I created overseas & bought more supplies then came back to US, where I paid customs fees for all my supplies at the airport during the whole time when I discovered my talent, US government was nowhere involved unless you want to get technical by saying the plane was made in US which it was not, it was a foreign airline...
rick barasso
4:56 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
DD
Obviously you sell nothing made by a BAIN owned company....
Dee Dokumaci
4:00 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Well I don't sell things made by Bain, but I support businesses that are part of Bain which I listed below;
The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.
rick barasso
5:07 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
PW and Karen
She said: "I built this business," she said, adding that she's NEVER GOTTEN GOVERNMENT HELP OF ANY KIND, not even from the city of Dunedin, in the 26 years she's owned it."
He wrote: They are no longer getting as big a milage deduction as they used to get. Which isn't true by the way.
So I ask which is it, Do you take government tax breaks or do you take NO government HELP of any kind EVER?
Dee Dokumaci
5:46 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”
rick barasso
7:31 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
DD
Quick question, You commented "I paid customs fees for all my supplies at the airport so your argument is invalid!"
How does paying customs at the airport provide jobs for American workers?
Dee Dokumaci
3:19 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Sorry I was typing quickly on a sticky keyboard bunch of words got omitted, I'll be correcting it, also first chance I get I will get the keyboard cleaned......
Dee Dokumaci
10:48 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Message to all those who take what's being said out of context, hear this, all your disagreements are your own, if being negative motivates you go for it nobody is standing in your way but have the decency to RESPECT the fact that "Hard Work Is The Golden Rule to succeed with anything in life!
Those of you who are bashing me because my father was a Doctor, think again he was a great Doctor he saved many many lives in fact he probably saved life of someone you know & love, FYI to clear what is in your minds my father retired 15 years before we opened the boutique so the boutique didn't start out with a lot of capital & as some of you posted that I had it easy think again I have never been in the lap of luxury it was all HARD WORK & DETERMINATION something some of you will not comprehend, bottom line I started out as a jewelry designer but now I am PROUD of the fact that I expanded by carrying many "Made In USA" merchandise where I am contributing to keep citizens of US able to work, it may not be a huge number at the moment but I have confidence eventually we will all be able to say no to "Made In China" we live in a great nation even with all the economic troubles, daily stresses in life there are still many things we can appreciate, we may not always see eye to eye but bashing somebody or name calling is never acceptable!
I would also like to make it clear, I believe in helping those who are less fortunate than me by donating goods....running out of space read next post!
DLC
11:09 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Dee,
I totally agree with you.
Hard work was what we have done in our 51 years of marriage. We never took a trip we could not pay for or bought anything we could not afford. Even little things. Paid for both our sons college educations so they could start out with a clean slate.
We retired with our SS and our savings. No pension . We support our Church and many charitable organizations.
We are outraged when people that have food stamps and those welfare debit cards are allowed to buy cigarettes, liquor go to strip clubs and get cash from ATM machines with them. Some, not all families do not deserve these benefits . They are able bodied and should be working.
And yes I do and have for a long time look at the labels If a Made in USA costs more I will buy it anyway because it usually is of better quality and lasts longer.
Anyway I agree with you and a lot of others in this blog. As for the others who support this administration I wonder how many of you think of the Kennedy family as Royality.
The display at the Democratic convention about the family of a Bootlegger, Joe Kennedy, was sickening. The only difference between Al Capone and Joe Kennedy was that Joe married the Mayor of Boston's daughter. Rose.
Dee Dokumaci
12:29 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
God Bless You & Your Family DLC thank you so much for replying to my post, your wonderful words mean the world to me :)
It is interesting your thoughts on the welfare issue, I just posted several videos of struggling poor families in Florida who deserve help but unfortunately are not getting it, I also have been following the story on a welfare case in Tampa of a woman with 15 children & 16th one on the way who is getting tons of government help, there is no justice in the system, how truly sad where our nation is, I will probably get lots of negative comments, twisting facts to suit their agenda but that's okay to each his/her own, God believes in me, that faith will carry me through :)
Bob Tankel
9:12 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I agree, hard work and determination, PLUS help from others; your place of worship is tax exempt, it pays no property taxes so we ALL have to make up the difference-- if you donate that is deducted from your taxes and even atheists have to pay to make for that tax exemption and deduction ; those schools we attend are publicly supported by property taxes. The Internet we use started as DARPANET The Defense Advanced Research Projects Network, and on and on.
Dee Dokumaci
11:54 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Yes I believe in helping those who are less fortunate than me, recently I came across a post in Patch, that really shook me up, first I was in shock then I cried then I got very angry & now I am determined to do something about it by sharing with anybody who has a heart as I am sure all of you do please pass it along to everybody you know, here's the heartbreaking news right in our backyard;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK_RnxYdrqU&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2hzRPLVSm4&feature=relmfu
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7389742n
Here's where to go for help: http://www.seminolehomelesskids.com/
rick barasso
7:05 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
No one, not here, not the president, no one has suggested that starting and running a business is easy or those that do, don't work hard. The difference lies in one side thinks they did it with no help from anyone else and if you didn't start your own business, you are not as good as they are. The other side is only saying, no one lives in a vaccume and no one succeeds without the efforts of others as well...
NB
9:59 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Just goes to show you how selfish and self-centered so many people are, especially the far right. ME instead of US. Karen has thrown everybody under the bus. EVERYBODY! From every customer and supplier all the way back to her teachers and her parents and everybody in between. She is not just delusional if she thinks she was alone. She is a wonderful illustration of narcissism at its finest, the plague that defines right-wingers.
rick barasso
1:17 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Yes should change the wording to: Sorry mr. President, I was talking out my ass.
Bob Tankel
3:25 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Dee, the Clearwater Code Enforcement Dopes thought it was "Commercial Speech" regulated by code as advertising which is given far less protection under the constitution than "political speech" which is what the sign in question is....as execrable as it is....I just wonder has Karen been posting to defend her brilliant business decision? Reminds me of the house up the street from me in my neighborhood; it's been for sale since 2008 and even though it's empty has had McCain-Palin, Marco, now an Eggers sign, kind of makes ya wonder, 40% of voters are "Independent" 30 and 30 are D or R....why as a business decision make a stir about politics? Ya gonna get someone angry.......One thing to give POTUS a bear hug when he drops in, another to say he can, well....you know.....
rick barasso
6:41 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You tell 'em dee. Republicans are murderers and torturous and thieves and perverts, certainly not bootleggers
Dee Dokumaci
7:35 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Rick, where do you get the crazy notion that Republicans are murderers, thieves & perverts your mentality is not only one sided but also libelous again we come back to the same argument which is NAME CALLING & BASHING which I am so tired of seeing in these posts, I know what you are going to say next why don't you leave & not participate if you are tired of it, well excuse me for expressing my views which is my right to do so & I would like to point out I have never used profanity to put my point across, why can't we all have intelligent conversation & agree to disagree, have some RESPECT, why is that so hard to do, this goes for both parties if you are using foul language, I have no respect for you & that is my clear choice, if you don't like it that's your business!
rick barasso
9:38 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
D.D.
Here you go..No name calling, just the truth
Murderers and torturers: Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, Looper
Thieves: Nixon, Reagan, Abrimoff, Delay, Cunningham
Perverts:Craig, Thompson, Blundell, Prevette, Parker, Calvin Byrd, Glen Murphy Jr.,Owens, Donld Clark
This is just the tip of the iceburg. You can find many, many more here:
http://republicanoffenders.com/index.html
I seldom write something I can't back up with facts...
rick barasso
9:47 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I'm sorry, I left off the biggest thief of them all, to the tune of one and a half billion dollars. Our own Rick Scott
Dee Dokumaci
1:56 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Rick most of the politicians have dirty laundry, here's a list of democrats as well as republicans in this website http://politicalgraveyard.com/trouble/index.html it is called the power game, we have too many chiefs & not enough indians, all I know is I'll continue working hard for the next 10 years then I will retire & I hope we'll still have SS & Medicare so that I can relax from my exhaustion due to hard work in peace & harmony so that right before I stop breathing I can look back & say I had a good life!
To those who are less fortunate than me who truly need a helping hand, know that my prayers are with you so that you can find the happiness you deserve!
rick barasso
6:56 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Dee
Rick, where do you get the crazy notion that Republicans are murderers, thieves & perverts your mentality is not only one sided but also libelous again we come back to the same argument which is NAME CALLING & BASHING.
I was merely showing you that it was not a crazy notion nor libelous. Just the truth. If the truth hurts, so be it.
Also, Those who are poor or suffering don't need your prayers, they need you to vote for those that will help ease their pain. I think we know which party is interested in doing that.
Not sure what the road site was about, but interesting history.
Back to the article, The woman was wrong and owes many people including her customers and the president an apology...
rick barasso
8:51 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Vic
You said any pres would have been o there had he said"it". What "it" are you refering to? President Obama said pretty much what you have said. I hope your wife doesn't suggest in public, you do the same thing she has suggested the president of the united states do....
Victor
8:57 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Good morning all, all I can say is wow, never thought a silly little banner would generate so much. I have been called racist, stupid, bad business man. Some of you are so quick to judge, because you see an anti- Obama sign, you see a republican. What you don't see is it's about the government. The name of any other pres. would have been on there, had they said it. One comment said she thinks she did it by herself, but I her husband did part. We had help from all the suppliers, builders, machines, plumbers,etc. All of us little people work hard to build something. We give money to a government, that we the American people built. We never said we did it all on are own. We made the government, they didn't make us. The silly banner has brought in some new people, and there is one face that I miss. He openly cuts down republicans, calls them stupid, if he can't take one view against his then, sorry. This shows me how divided this country is, and thats a bad thing, we are all Americans, and we have to work together to keep it great. Some of you think that your side of the fence is the only way,no side is perfect. We have to keep an open mind, and whats best for the U.S.A. I'm an independent, have voted for both sides, and will always try to put in the best American to do the job for the people and this great country, thats where my heart is. This is all my opinion, and I respect yours. I hope you all have a great day. Victor Rogers
Linda
9:59 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Victor,
You have everry right to express your opinions, however, your "little banner" is crass and disrespectful. Thank you Patch and Katie for bringing this to our attention and giving us the forum to express our opinions.
Lori
10:44 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama can kiss mine too! Kudos to Victor and Karen. DON'T take down that sign! I want one for my yard! Its FREE speech...or is Obama trying to take that away too! I love your banner..NOT crass...TRUE! @Rick, WOW you are very scarey!
rick barasso
11:13 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Scarey? I fail to see where I said anything scarey. Everything I said is the truth. If that's scarey don't blame me...
Freedom
3:48 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Violent Crime and Murder in America
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Commentary from the Editor
Violent Crime and Murder in America- Blame Democrats
It is true! If you want to place blame for the majority of violent crime and murder in America- blame Democrats. I ask- where does the most violent crime and murders in America occur? It takes place in the inner cities of America. New York City, Los Angeles, Detroit, Philadelphia .... Washington DC- is considered the murder capital of the nation. This is the city that elected Marion Barry as mayor after he was convicted of drug charges. What is the political characteristic of these cities? These are inner cities located in blue states (Democratic states). That being said- inner cities are not Republican strong holds regardless of the state. Please note that even in red states (Republican states)- the inner cites are voting in high numbers for Democrats. Do you think the residents of Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit, Cincinnati, New York, Philadelphia are voting for Republicans? They are voting in much higher percentages for Democrats. I am making a blanket statement- but the percentages back this statement. As a result- it is fair to say that most crimes and murder in America are being committed by Democrats - because the percentages of Democrats in these areas far exceed the number of Republicans.
Freedom
3:49 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
So do you want more proof? Just watch an episode of the show Cops. The majority of people being arrested are not Republicans. Do you think an unemployed drug dealer is supporting President Bush? Okay- so a guy getting busted for selling crack may not be voting at all - but his neighbors are and they are not voting for President Bush or Republicans! And if that guy selling crack could vote- he would not be electing conservatives?
Liberals reading this will point to one or two Republicans that have been convicted of crimes and refer to them as an example and stereotype all Republicans as such. That is like saying that because Aileen Wournos was a serial killer- all serial killers are women. The truth is- the majority of serial killers are white males in their 30's or 40's. The percentages reflect that most crime and murder is committed in the inner cites of America by the poor and this is the constituency of the Democratic Party. This is simple math. If 70% of the people living in a particular inner city are Democrats and there are 100 murders in that city - it is likely that 70 percent of the murders will be committed by Democrats. Please note that I am being conservative here with the numbers- 90% of African Americans vote for Democrats. I would suggest that the poor in the inner cities vote for Democrats at a percent not far from that.
Freedom
3:52 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
With simple math and logic we have established that the majority of crime in America is committed by Democrats or people that support the values of the Democratic Party. Please note that Democrats (liberals) decry the deaths of 2,000 volunteer soldiers in an effort to spread freedom in the world. On average - there are close to 20,000 murders of innocent people in America each year. That is approximately 40,000 during the time of the Iraq War. As previously noted- the majority of these are in areas in America that vote in high numbers for Democrats- thereby committed in high numbers by Democrats. Despite this fact- you never hear Democrats decry the murder of innocent people like they do against the war in Iraq. Instead - they complain about the police officers tactics arresting these murderers. Instead- liberals want to parole these murderers and give felons the right to vote!
I have made a comparison with the deaths of innocent Americans and deaths of soldiers in Iraq trying to spread freedom. Please note that I have not even mentioned liberals support of abortion and partial birth (live birth) abortions- which total in the millions per year.
Freedom
3:53 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
So I ask- what side are you on? The Republican side- which targets the killing of terrorists bent on destroying America and freedom (criticized by Democrats) or the the Democrat side that commit the most crimes including murder against innocent Americans by a large percent- but are against the effort to target terrorists and spread freedom in the world?
Written by Thomas George
Editor@boycottliberalism.com
Freedom
4:03 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Let the facts speak, vote intelligently, vote for true freedom of speech, vote for the proud & hard working small business owner, vote for taxpayers who built the roads & bridges!
The Choice is Obvious VOTE REPUBLICAN, President Mitt Romney Vice President Paul Ryan!
rick barasso
4:17 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Is wackjob one word or two?
Lana
1:37 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Youre a &%$
Sahara
4:34 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Quick..help.....we have just had a Fox overdose.
rick barasso
5:14 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
FS
Using your logic and these statistics, who should we vote for?
1.One hypothesis suggests a causal link between legalized abortion and the drop in crime during the 1990s.[8]
2.Another hypothesis suggests reduced lead exposure as the cause; Scholar Mark A.R. Kleiman writes: "Given the decrease in lead exposure among children since the 1980s and the estimated effects of lead on crime, reduced lead exposure could easily explain a very large proportion—certainly more than half—of the crime decrease of the 1994-2004 period. A careful statistical study relating local changes in lead exposure to local crime rates estimates the fraction of the crime decline due to lead reduction as greater than 90 percent. [9]
HERE'S THE ONE I REALLY LIKE:
The year 2010 was overall the most free of serious crime in almost forty years. The recent overall decrease spans all types of such crime, with violent and property crimes having reached an all-time low.
I GUESS WE SHOULD KEEP THE MAN WHO'S BEEN IN CHARGE, IN CHARGE...
Freedom
6:58 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Your logic amazes me, we are in the year 2012 not 1990 & according to FBI & Law Enforcement as I posted below, crime has gone up, you tell your Scholar to climb down to urban streets from his ivory tower & join the brave policeman who are fighting crime everyday to see the real numbers, not imaginary ones!
So with all these negatives in the present administration, Vote Republican, you'll be glad you did!
Freedom
5:28 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
FS
Using your logic and these statistics, who should we vote for?
The Choice is Obvious VOTE REPUBLICAN, President Mitt Romney Vice President Paul Ryan !
Freedom
5:39 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Violent crime in D.C. surges in 2012
Internal police data show citywide problem
Violent crime so far this year in the District has spiked sharply — a 40 percent increase that includes twice as many robberies at gunpoint than at this time last year.
Across the city, all police districts are reporting increases in violent crime, and all but one have had double-digit percentage increases, according to internal Metropolitan Police
incidents of violent crime — homicides, sexual assaults, robberies and assaults with deadly weapons — are rising at an alarming pace.
Freedom
5:49 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Rate of Killings Rises 38 Percent in Chicago in 2012
Mr. Emanuel listed safer streets among his top three priorities when he became mayor a year ago, but Chicago, the nation’s third-largest city, is now testing that promise. Homicides are up by 38 percent from a year ago, and shootings have increased as well, even as killings have held steady or dropped in New York, Los Angeles and some other cities. As of June 17, 240 people had been killed here this year, mostly in shootings, 66 more deaths than occurred in the same period in 2011.
“That’s somebody’s husband, somebody’s son, and they’re dying right on our block,” said Maya Hodari, who lives on a South Side street where two shootings have already taken place this year, one of them fatal and another as a toddler looked on. “It hurts.”
In one neighborhood last week, plainclothes officers searched parking lots and old addresses for 30 suspects as part of Superintendent McCarthy’s larger race to dismantle drug and gang operations. At one point, they said, they found themselves staring at a gun aimed at them by a man who was not even on the list of suspects they were searching for. Moments later, the gun lay shining on the ground, an officer’s shot left a bullet hole in a nearby car, and the man, 21, was added to the list of those arrested in the sweep — all before 11 a.m.
Freedom
5:59 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The Most Dangerous Cities in America
Posted: June 11, 2012 at 8:31 pm
In 2010, Stockton had an unemployment rate of 18.4%, among the worst in the nation for large cities. In 2011, the labor market worsened and unemployment rose to 20.2%, well more than double the national average of 8.9% and the highest of any of the cities on this list. Violent crime rates also have worsened, increasing from 13.8 crimes per 1,000 people in 2010. Though Stockton has long had high crime rates, the 58 murders recorded in Stockton last year were an all-time record for the city. This month, to curb the increasing crime rates in the city, police decided to prioritize violent crime and to no longer respond to property crimes in the city unless certain criminal conditions were met.
9. Baltimore, Md.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 14.2
> Population: 626,848
> 2011 murders: 196
> Median income: $38,346
> Unemployment rate: 10.5%
Baltimore managed to decrease its violent crime rate slightly from 14.6 per 1,000 in 2010 to 14.2 last year. This coincides with a 12% decrease in murders. However, Baltimore still has the sixth-highest homicide rate of any U.S. city with a population above 100,000. Baltimore’s murder rate has been dropping steadily, but with 341 forcible rape cases in 2011 and the 11th-highest aggravated assault rate in the country, many residents are victims. In 2010, Baltimore made plans to layoff 193 police due to budget cuts.
Freedom
6:01 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
8. Atlanta, Ga.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 14.3
> Population: 425,533
> 2011 murders: 88
> Median income: $41,631
> Unemployment rate:12.1%
Compared to most American cities, Atlanta has extremely high incidences of both violent and property crimes. The city’s 8.27 aggravated assaults per 1,000 people is one of the 10 highest rates among the country’s largest cities, as is the city’s 70.84 property crimes per 1,000 people. Atlanta also has one of the nation’s highest rates of motor vehicle theft, with a total of 5,371 incidents in the city last year. Vehicle theft likely will remain an issue throughout 2012 as well; in March almost 100 individuals were arrested as part of a single auto theft operation.
Freedom
6:03 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
7. Birmingham, Ala.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 14.8
> Population: 213,258
> 2011 murders: 54
> Median income: $30,212
> Unemployment rate: 10.9%
New on the list this year is Birmingham, which ranks among the top five cities in the U.S. for forcible rape and property crime rates. The city also has among the highest rates of burglary and larceny-theft. Like many other high crime cities, Birmingham has one of the highest poverty rates in the country, at 25.1%. Despite the rampant crime, officials announced last year that they planned to lay off 148 employees of the sheriff’s department in an effort to reduce the budget by $12.3 million.
Freedom
6:04 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
6. Little Rock, Ark.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 14.9
> Population: 194,988
> 2011 murders: 37
> Median income: $44,415
> Unemployment rate: 7.2%
Though Little Rock’s 2011 violent crime rate is down from 2010, when there were 15.2 violent crimes for every 1,000 people, in many ways the city’s crime rate has not truly improved. Although in 2010 there were only 25 murders in the city, in 2011 there were 37. Additionally, incidents of forcible rape increased from 149 to 161, while the number of property crime incidents increased by 708, or almost 5%. According to the Little Rock Police Department’s COMPSTAT reports, the total number of violent, property and arson crimes has experienced a net increase since 2001, although with slight declines in more recent years.
Freedom
6:07 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
5. Memphis, Tenn.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 15.8
> Population: 652,725
> 2011 murders: 117
> Median income: $37,045
> Unemployment rate: 11.1%
In 2011, Memphis defied the national trend of declining crime rates in major U.S. cities. The rate of violent crimes per 1,000 people increased, from 15.4 to 15.8. This was the product of increases in murders, which rose from 89 to 117 cases, and aggravated assault incidents, which rose by 100 cases. A rising unemployment rate, which grew 1.2% to 11.1% in 2011, likely has not helped to reduce criminal behavior. With a current budget deficit of $45 million, Mayor Wharton says he may need to consider “taking boots off the street,” by laying off members of the police force in the near future.
Freedom
6:09 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
4. Oakland, Calif.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 16.8
> Population: 395,317
> 2011 murders: 104
> Median income: $49,190
> Unemployment rate: 15.6%
Oakland historically has been among the most crime-ridden cities in California, with a violent crime rate this year of 16.8 per 1,000 people. There were 14 more murders in 2011 than in 2010, causing Oakland to maintain the ninth-highest murder rate in the country two years in a row. Oakland is the number one city for both robbery and motor vehicle theft rates in the country. Oakland city councilmember Desley Brooks, who wants to allocate $11 million in revenue to the police force, acknowledges the increased violent crime, saying, “we cannot ignore that we have had an increase in violent crime, and so we cannot continue to do the same thing the same way and expect that it’s going to be a different result.”
Freedom
6:09 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
3. St. Louis, Mo.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 18.6
> Population: 320,454
> 2011 murders: 113
> Median income: $32,688
> Unemployment rate: 11.7%
Although the total number of murders in the city has decreased by 31 since 2010, crime in St. Louis did not improve overall last year. Violent crime rates in St. Louis have risen dramatically, from 17.5 to 18.6 cases per 1,000 people. And the city’s murder rate is still the fourth highest in the nation, its robbery rate is the fifth highest in the nation and its aggravated assault rate is third highest in the nation. Despite these troubling facts, the St. Louis Police Department recently faced potentially drastic budget cuts, that may require the elimination of 100 street-patrolling officer positions through attrition.
Freedom
6:11 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
2. Detroit, Mich.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 21.4
> Population: 713,239
> 2011 murders: 344
> Median income: $25,787
> Unemployment rate: 19.9%
Long regarded as one of the poorest cities in the U.S., with a 32.3% poverty rate and nearly 20% unemployment in 2010, Detroit has the second-highest violent crime rate in the country. Homicide increased by 11% in 2011, while robbery and aggravated assault are fourth and second highest in the country, respectively. Nonviolent crime is also an issue, with burglary, motor vehicle theft and arson rates in the top 10 rankings in the country. In response to an 18% decrease in the Detroit police budget, which will result in the elimination of 380 positions through attrition and early retirement, the city has begun taking steps to decrease police funding by introducing “Virtual Precincts.” The plan, which closes police stations between 4 p.m. and 8 a.m, requires citizens to report non-emergency crime to a call center, and frees up more patrol officers to respond to 911 emergency calls.
Freedom
6:15 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
1. Flint, Mich.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 23.4
> Population: 102,357
> 2011 murders: 52
> Median income: $22,672
> Unemployment rate: 18.9%
According to the FBI examined, no city with more than 100,000 residents had a higher violent crime rate than Flint. In 2011, there were 2,392 incidents of violent crime in Flint, which has a population just above 100,000. That same year, there were just 1,246 violent crimes in all 10 of the safest cities in America — which have 13 times as many residents as Flint among them. Flint has the second-highest murder rate and the highest rates of aggravated assault, burglary and arson in the nation. According to Flint Mayor Dayne Walling: “there are too many guns on the street and it’s easy for individuals with evil motives to take another human being’s life.” Though the violent crime has long been a problem in Flint, in 2010 the city laid off 20 of its 140 police officers, a decision that diminished both the police’s street presence and response times to crime.
Freedom
6:20 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
10. Stockton, Calif.
> Violent crimes per 1,000: 14.1
> Population: 295,136
> 2011 murders: 58
> Median income: $45,606
> Unemployment rate: 20.2%
In 2010, Stockton had an unemployment rate of 18.4%, among the worst in the nation for large cities. In 2011, the labor market worsened and unemployment rose to 20.2%, well more than double the national average of 8.9% and the highest of any of the cities on this list. Violent crime rates also have worsened, increasing from 13.8 crimes per 1,000 people in 2010. Though Stockton has long had high crime rates, the 58 murders recorded in Stockton last year were an all-time record for the city. This month, to curb the increasing crime rates in the city, police decided to prioritize violent crime and to no longer respond to property crimes in the city unless certain criminal conditions were met.
Sahara
8:42 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Reality Check: I agree with Free Spirit. Crime will increase. Especially if money grabbing policies of greed and "your on your own" slogans of the Right win out. Learn from the past. When pushed to the point of nothing to lose, the French took out their" Republican Party." History is there from which to learn. That crime you speak of could be coming to a neighborhood near you. Course Romney and his ilk will be in Switzerland. Where will you be. With your little militia group. Good luck!
rick barasso
7:05 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
FS
I notice most of the states you showed us were very conservative, very republican states/ soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Go Obama
rick barasso
7:15 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Where you refering to the BRAVE POLICEMAN that Obama saved their jobs as Republicans were trying to cut them? Those policeman that republicans voted against the 9/11 long term care for first responders at ground zero?
Go Obama
Cisco
7:20 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Chicago's striking teachers flunk sympathy test
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/story/2012-09-11/Chicago-teachers-strike-evaluation/57752190/1
Freedom
8:05 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
While Hard Times Generation: Families Living in Cars, Cheap Motels & as Beth Davalos indicates government funding is not available because it is maxed out!
So where's our President while visiting Orlando, look he is at a sports bar having a good old time, how sad where the values are instead of going to that sports bar, why couldn't he stop at a pizza place & deliver it to Hard Times Generation Families & give them hope!
Vote Republican!
Freedom
2:14 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Lets elaborate on Give Them Hope: By telling these "Hard Times Generation Children to stay in school due to some of them already put their education on hold & are working to support their families, how sad to rob them of their childhood, putting them in danger living in cheap motels in high crime areas:(
President Obama could have been a great President if he showed compassion & help them overcome their fear & unnecessary suffering!
Lesson learned well, thanks for making our choices clear.
Sahara
9:55 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Mitt continues to prove he is a novice when dealing with foreign policy and also that his goal is to win the presidency and he will say anything to do such even if that is to throw the USA under the bus to beat Obama. This is the attitude that we have seen for 4 years from Republicans taking stands against the president for no other reason than Obama is Obama, Even when he proposes Republican plans, they are against it. We have all encountered people in this world that will stand in your way for no reason than to stand in your way. This deplorable attitude of Mitt would have never been acceptable in the old Republican party. Shame on you Mitt for squandering your so called religious principles. Everyone is starting to catch on to your shallowness. In fact, keep it up. You're starting to make George Bush look like Immanuel Kant.
Freedom
12:20 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Ambassador killed in Libya on 911, where's President Obama?? Campaigning in entertainment capital Las Vegas instead of in White House attending to his duties as the Commander in Chief!
Report Card For President Obama, Grades According To His Performance:
Domestic Economics: Dissatisfied
Education: Dissatisfied
Foreign Policy: Dissatisfied
Public Relations: Dissatisfied
Overall Score: Dissatisfied
Who You Gonna Call Mitt Romney, Vote Intelligently Vote Mitt Romney, Paid For By Hard Working Citizens Of United States To Elect Mitt Romney As The 45th President of The United States!
rick barasso
5:47 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Ryan then repeated his frequent criticism of Obama on defense: "I believe the president's devastating defense cuts breed weakness." However, as the House Budget Committee chairman, Ryan himself voted for the defense cuts in August 2011 as part of deficit-cutting legislation.
JAN
11:10 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Mitt Romney as President is ALMOST as scary as 4 years ago when there was a chance of Sarah Palin being VICE PRESIDENT!
Mike K
1:26 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
One question, where was Mrs. Rogers anger when George W. Bush and Dickless Cheney were estroying this country? I am sure if someone would have put up the same sign about Bush that Rogers would have condemed them as being "unpatriotic". This is what is currently wrong with thsi country, we have extremist like the "tea baggers" running around degrading the POTUS, but they become angry when someone does the same when their party is in charge.
Lana
1:38 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Hey everybody...We must all listen to Rick Loudmouth R.....NOT...Hes knows it all....NOT!
Cisco
1:59 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
ditto
rick barasso
1:43 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I'm not sure to what you are referring Lana. But it is nice that someone on the right finally noticed that I do in fact know what I'm talking about. So thank you again.
Sincerely,
Rick
Freedom
1:45 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
(CBS News) Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan placed plenty of blame on President Obama for half a trillion dollars worth of defense cuts set to go into effect in 2013, even thought the Wisconsin congressman supported them.
Ryan said he voted for the defense cuts "because I was working to find common ground with Democrats to get a down payment on deficit reduction," Ryan told host Norah O'Donnell Sunday on "Face the Nation." "I worked with President Obama to find common ground to get a down payment on deficit reduction. It wasn't a big down payment, but it was a step in the right direction."
The defense cuts are half part of more than $1 trillion dollars of automatic across-the-board spending cuts, known as the sequester, which are a result of an agreement between Republicans in Congress and President Obama to lift the debt ceiling.
Freedom
1:45 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
The defense cuts were an incentive for Congress to come up with alternative ways to cut more than $1 trillion from the deficit, but since Congress failed to pass a plan, the budget cuts are expected to go into effect next fiscal year.
Ryan, however, blamed the president for the defense cuts. "That's putting politics ahead of national security," he said.
"[I]f he's not going to help us with a plan to prevent those defense cuts by substituting them with cuts from elsewhere, what's his plan for the sequester? He's ignoring the law. He was supposed to give these to us just yesterday. So the problem, Norah, is, we've led," Ryan added.
rick barasso
1:50 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Lana,
As always should I put anything in here that's untrue, I would appreciate it if you pointed it out. If I am printing the facts, I don't understand your dilemma. If the truth hurts that's not my problem. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. That doesn't mean they can take a false statement and call it truth.
Freedom
1:50 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
So there you have it folks, how the liberals twists facts to suit their own agenda!
Vote Intelligently, Vote Republican, Vote For Romney/Ryan Team!
Sahara
2:10 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Free...Believe me most Republicans, Zealot Religious, Teabaggers, etc. will never be mistaken for intelligent. Don't you see that the image you send out is radical uncontrollable and hostile by nature, unable to adjust to anything but your way. You're Obama's best hope just by being. Keep it up! The Independents are watching. Oh yes and have Mitt say something else....anything...it all works for Obama!
Freedom
2:28 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Name calling is what liberals know best when they are proven wrong!
Vote Responsibly, Vote Republican :)
Cisco
2:40 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Free Spirit
Here is a good video to keep handy when they play the race card. And they will
BARACK OBAMA CAMPAIGN CALLS BILL CLINTON A RACIST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNdIrnwyfE
rick barasso
2:47 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Does anyone know if our military budget is larger than the next 26 or is it 29 countries combined? Yep no room for cuts there
Sahara
2:50 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
The Pentagon doesn't even want the additional money MR. BUDGET, Paul Ryan wants to give to the Military but take away from schools etc.
Sahara
2:53 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Our navy is bigger than the next 17 navies. Rome did this too. How did that work out.
Sahara
2:48 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Go Free....Let's see more paranoia. We know you have it in you! Tell us how the sky is falling and minorities are taking over and how anyone who disagrees with you is unpatriotic, and how immigrants should go home, how Obama is a Muslim and he wasn't born in the U.S. and all the other things you're afraid of.
rick barasso
3:30 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Thank god Romney is unemployed, with yesterday's absurd speech, he would have been drumed out of any public office he might have held
Cisco
3:57 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Obama echoes Carter with ‘shoot first’ criticism of Romney
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-echoes-carter-with-shoot-first-criticism-of-romney/article/2507863#.UFI6hq6lvq7
Sahara
4:02 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Announced today that Romney will begin getting intelligence briefings. Personally, i don't think it will work.
Cisco
4:23 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Obama Team Won't Call Embassy Murders a Terror Attack
http://nation.foxnews.com/cairo-embassy-attack/2012/09/13/obama-team-wont-call-embassy-murders-terror-attack
Charles Smith
4:11 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
"If we had a nickel for every time the LIBERAL MEDIA twisted an issue to blame Romney/Bush and let Obama off the hook we'd be rich........."
Sahara
4:23 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Now you're getting it charley boy. That's our whole point. That's all you care about....being rich. But at the expense of others.
Charles Smith
4:32 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Biased reporting, the alphabet soup news collaborating stories,,,,,,, Clearly stated, to the point and 100% true and that is unbiased.
Charles Smith
4:39 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I have to admit I have seen a couple of negative Obama stories on CNN in the past 2 weeks, and a negative editorial in the NYT by Dowd and one in the Daily News, Random acts of Journalism
Freedom
5:08 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Unreal & unfortunate a scumbag makes a movie mocking a religion creates an uproar in the Muslim community & the administration has the nerve to think terrorists did it, you all know well if anybody cuts down any religion you are going to get a response I guarantee you will not like, sad thing is 4 lives are lost & they had nothing to do with it, God Help Us All!
Freedom
5:19 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Smart thing would be to catch the bombers but also must find the scumbag who made the movie & make an example out of all of them, explain to Muslims not to hate Americans!
Charles Smith
5:12 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
This will shed some light on what we are up against The video and transcripts below..
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/09/13/media_sets_narrative_to_cover_for_the_democrats_disastrous_foreign_policy
Freedom
12:15 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
I love doing research especially checking world news where you can find so much more information, I uncovered the scumbag who contributed to 4 lives being taken from their families & loved ones, that person is no other than Terry Jones of Gainesville, at the moment only NBC news is reporting it here's the link http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/49004610/#49004610
Freedom
7:16 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
All this is scary, ignorance at work, what a shame where the views are, no wonder liberals want Rush out of the way when he speaks the truth, dangerous times we are living in....
Charles Smith
2:28 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
It is a matter of values. Put the shoe on the other foot. The Muslims portray Jesus in a cartoon or a movie. The Pope or Church tells Christians to burn and murder Muslims. We know what would happen. This is an article that helps explain the different value systems.
http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2006/02/28/why_the_left_doesnt_blame_muslims_for_muslim_violence/page/full/
rick barasso
4:19 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Rush, is that womanizing drug addict still around? Certainly nobody takes this criminal seriously
Cisco
4:59 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
U talkin bout Bill Clinton.
Charles Smith
4:49 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
rick barasso did you read the transcripts on the site.
rick barasso
6:17 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
What site?
Charles Smith
7:13 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
rick barasso this one
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/09/13/media_sets_narrative_to_cover_for_the_democrats_disastrous_foreign_policy
Freedom
7:32 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Getting ready to post horrible news, all facts!
Freedom
7:40 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
The killings of the US ambassador to Libya and three of his staff were likely to have been the result of a serious and continuing security breach, The Independent can reveal.
American officials believe the attack was planned, but Chris Stevens had been back in the country only a short while and the details of his visit to Benghazi, where he and his staff died, were meant to be confidential.
The US administration is now facing a crisis in Libya. Sensitive documents have gone missing from the consulate in Benghazi and the supposedly secret location of the "safe house" in the city, where the staff had retreated, came under sustained mortar attack. Other such refuges across the country are no longer deemed "safe".
Freedom
7:41 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Some of the missing papers from the consulate are said to list names of Libyans who are working with Americans, putting them potentially at risk from extremist groups, while some of the other documents are said to relate to oil contracts.
According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted.
Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.
Freedom
7:42 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Eight Americans, some from the military, were wounded in the attack which claimed the lives of Mr Stevens, Sean Smith, an information officer, and two US Marines. All staff from Benghazi have now been moved to the capital, Tripoli, and those whose work is deemed to be non-essential may be flown out of Libya.
In the meantime a Marine Corps FAST Anti-Terrorism Reaction Team has already arrived in the country from a base in Spain and other personnel are believed to be on the way. Additional units have been put on standby to move to other states where their presence may be needed in the outbreak of anti-American fury triggered by publicity about a film which demeaned the Prophet Mohamed.
A mob of several hundred stormed the US embassy in the Yemeni capital Sanaa yesterday. Other missions which have been put on special alert include almost all those in the Middle East, as well as in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Armenia, Burundi and Zambia.
Freedom
7:42 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Senior officials are increasingly convinced, however, that the ferocious nature of the Benghazi attack, in which rocket-propelled grenades were used, indicated it was not the result of spontaneous anger due to the video, called Innocence of Muslims. Patrick Kennedy, Under-Secretary at the State Department, said he was convinced the assault was planned due to its extensive nature and the proliferation of weapons.
There is growing belief that the attack was in revenge for the killing in a drone strike in Pakistan of Mohammed Hassan Qaed, an al-Qa'ida operative who was, as his nom-de-guerre Abu Yahya al-Libi suggests, from Libya, and timed for the anniversary of the 11 September attacks.
Senator Bill Nelson, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said: "I am asking my colleagues on the committee to immediately investigate what role al-Qa'ida or its affiliates may have played in the attack and to take appropriate action."
Freedom
7:43 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night. There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."
Wissam Buhmeid, the commander of the Tripoli government-sanctioned Libya's Shield Brigade, effectively a police force for Benghazi, maintained that it was anger over the Mohamed video which made the guards abandon their post. "There were definitely people from the security forces who let the attack happen because they were themselves offended by the film; they would absolutely put their loyalty to the Prophet over the consulate. The deaths are all nothing compared to insulting the Prophet."
Mr Stevens, it is believed, was left in the building by the rest of the staff after they failed to find him in dense smoke caused by a blaze which had engulfed the building. He was discovered lying unconscious by local people and taken to a hospital, the Benghazi Medical Centre, where, according to a doctor, Ziad Abu Ziad, he died from smoke inhalation.
Freedom
7:44 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
An eight-strong American rescue team was sent from Tripoli and taken by troops under Captain Fathi al- Obeidi, of the February 17 Brigade, to the secret safe house to extract around 40 US staff. The building then came under fire from heavy weapons. "I don't know how they found the place to carry out the attack. It was planned, the accuracy with which the mortars hit us was too good for any ordinary revolutionaries," said Captain Obeidi. "It began to rain down on us, about six mortars fell directly on the path to the villa."
Libyan reinforcements eventually arrived, and the attack ended. News had arrived of Mr Stevens, and his body was picked up from the hospital and taken back to Tripoli with the other dead and the survivors.
Mr Stevens' mother, Mary Commanday, spoke of her son yesterday. "He did love what he did, and he did a very good job with it. He could have done a lot of other things, but this was his passion. I have a hole in my heart," she said.
Freedom
7:47 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Global anger: The protests spread
Yemen
The furore across the Middle East over the controversial film about the Prophet Mohamed is now threatening to get out of control. In Sana'a, the Yemeni capital, yesterday around 5,000 demonstrators attacked the US embassy, leaving at least 15 people injured. Young protesters, shouted: "We sacrifice ourselves for you, Messenger of God," smashed windows of the security offices and burned at least five cars, witnesses said.
Egypt
Egypt's Islamist President Mohamed Morsi yesterday condemned the attack in Benghazi that killed the US ambassador. In a speech in Brussels, Mr Morsi said he had spoken to President Obama and condemned "in the clearest terms" the Tuesday attacks. Despite this, and possibly playing to a domestic audience, President Obama said yesterday that "I don't think we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy".
Demonstrators in Cairo attacked the mission on Tuesday evening and protests have continued since.
Freedom
7:50 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Iraq
Militants said the anti-Islamic film "will put all the American interests Iraq in danger" and called on Muslims everywhere to "face our joint enemy", as protesters in Baghdad burned American flags yesterday. The warning from the Iranian-backed group Asaib Ahl al-Haq came as demonstrators demanded the closure of the US embassy in the capital.
Bangladesh
Islamists warned they may "besiege" the US embassy in Dhaka after security forces stopped around 1,000 protesters marching to the building. The Khelafat Andolon group called for bigger protests as demonstrators threw their fists in the air, burned the flag and chanted anti-US slogans.
rick barasso
8:38 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Again, why would anyone care about what that lying, talentless, womanizing, drug addicted hack has to say? I wouldn't care about anything Daryl Strawberry had to say, unless maybe he was talking about life as a baseball player. If Rush were to talk about how to get a radio show without having a clue what your talking about, or how to either smuggle bucket loads of illegal drugs across the border or steal them from your maid. Why would I care about anything else he has to talk about? Oh, maybe if he did a show on how a fat old druggie can marry a hot chick half his age. I'm sure it's love! What a dope(pun intended)
Freedom
9:51 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Evidence shows, let the facts speak for itself, when you are dealing with Muslim nations through out the years when you knock down their religion, you are going to get a deadly reaction especially in countries who don't believe in "Freedom of Speech" so there are contributing factors what Terry Jones did is despicable to say the least, some of these Muslims are fanatics when it comes to protecting their religion so people like Terry Jones who are spreading hatred by burning Koran & making smut films must be stopped, when are we going to learn spreading hate in this magnitude is deadly plus on top of all that a weak foreign defense & not enough security on 911 is horrible, how do we condone this report....
"According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and "lockdown", under which movement is severely restricted. Mr Stevens had been on a visit to Germany, Austria and Sweden and had just returned to Libya when the Benghazi trip took place with the US embassy's security staff deciding that the trip could be undertaken safely.
Freedom
9:52 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
According to security sources the consulate had been given a "health check" in preparation for any violence connected to the 9/11 anniversary. In the event, the perimeter was breached within 15 minutes of an angry crowd starting to attack it at around 10pm on Tuesday night. There was, according to witnesses, little defence put up by the 30 or more local guards meant to protect the staff. Ali Fetori, a 59-year-old accountant who lives near by, said: "The security people just all ran away and the people in charge were the young men with guns and bombs."
Freedom
9:55 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
There you have it folks, this is just the tip of the iceberg how the current democratic party failed in foreign defense, more to come....
Sahara
10:08 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Using your logic, Free, the Republican party is responsible for the 241 deaths at the Beirut embassy invasion. This type of faulty thinking characterizes most of your posts. No wonder your decisions, in regard to the character of the people you support, lacks any continuity. Take a course in logic.
Freedom
10:14 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Here's another brilliant news, White House officials asked Google to pull off the smut film & Google rejected the White House, that it is within their guidelines here's my take on this problem with White House officials, you do not ask them, they need to demand it, Feds need to ban it as for Google another liberal media with blood in their hands....
Guess where I found this article of all places in the Egyptian site http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/google-rejects-white-house-request-pull-mohammad-film-clip
Sahara
10:18 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
There you go again. You guys are always ready to ban or censor something. Learn from "Prohibition". Emotional responses on both sides will not produce an end but a continual response in any situation.
Freedom
10:19 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
US Ambassador to Egypt Anne Patterson said in a statement released Sunday that her country will back the presidential candidate that Egyptians select.
She said she hoped that Egypt would pass through the transitional period to arrive at a democracy. Patterson assured that the US would collaborate with the next Egyptian president even if he was an Islamist. She added that the United States respects Egyptians' choice and described the presidential polls as a historic opportunity for all Egyptians. Patterson's comments came on the sidelines of the inauguration of a number of development projects in Cairo, Alexandria, and Giza. The projects are funded by the US Agency for International Development as part of an American program supporting democratic development.
Edited translation from Al-Masry Al-Youm
Freedom
10:38 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Here's the problem to say the least "The projects are funded by the US Agency for International Development as part of an American program supporting democratic development.
Our nation is having catastrophic economy & US Agency is funding numerous projects in a country that hates us, again this from the same Egyptian site!
rick barasso
11:11 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
" a country that hates us"? A country is made of dirt, sand, Water, and rock. I don't think these things have the ability to hate. Individuals hate, some carry it to extremes. These people should be punished. Innocent people are innocent people. Should every Christian be punished for the Oklahoma City bombings as they were Christians that did it?
Freedom
11:24 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
You're losing your grip on reality Mr. Barasso, key issue here is not about A country is made of dirt, sand, Water, and rock, it is about US Agency funding projects in Egypt while they are rioting & killing innocent people, they are taking the money US Agency is giving & laughing all the way to the bank!
Freedom
11:42 pm on Friday, September 14, 2012
Now you got to realize one thing, these Muslim nations, they are not thinking rationally due to that smut film, for heaven's sake their religion has been insulted, but by no means they have a right to kill innocent people, I have been watching the riots & got a major headache plus scared of what the future holds, one side Iran is building & probably almost finished the nuclear weapons, on another side Israel preparing an attack on Iran, world is crushing all around, God Help Us All!
Freedom
12:09 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Mr. Barasso you haven't responded to what I just posted, I'd like to hear your thoughts on what's happening overseas without getting into political election in US or about the capabilities of the current political parties in the Presidential race, what are your feelings about the current mess in the middle east & surrounding areas??
rick barasso
8:31 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Sorry, I was sleeping.
1st. "these Muslim nations, they are not thinking rationally " We can't blame an entire "nation". It's like saying The US tortures innocent people. Certainly everyone doesn't agree with that policy
2nd. "Smut film", I have not seen it, so I can't say it is,but the man responsible for it, is a religious zealot, who has shown in the past, he cares nothing for human life. I'm guessing his film is as full of lies as he is.
3rd. It is a shame, it is a mess over there, Blaming this film, or the administration for all that is wrong over there, is simply ignoring history, culture and the power of misguided religious leaders and zealots.
4th."but by no means they have a right to kill innocent people". I agree, they might argue, we had "no right" to kill innocent muslims in Iraq and Afganistan. You know, the glass house thing.
5th."Iran is building & probably almost finished the nuclear weapons,". There is NO proof Iran is developing nuclear weapons. They claim they are developing nuclear power. Until there is some proof it's untrue, it's WMDs all over again.
Thank you for wanting to hear thoughts, rather than just calling our leaders names. I hope you understand what I'm saying, It is a shame, dangerous, and those who are guilty of crimes should be brought to justice. However, we can't blame an entire nation for the actions of a few criminals and zealots. It would be like saying all Americans side with the Tea party or OWS.
Charles Smith
8:53 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
rick most of what you said in this post I agree with. Values are at the center of it all.
rick barasso
9:12 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
I'm not sure what you wouldn't agree with. But I'm glad to see we are making headway
Charles Smith
10:35 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Making headway?? Thank you. In reply to your sarcasm, " the usual same boring retorts"
Every once in a while you get it right. Success obtained through dumb luck. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
rick barasso
11:46 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
I'm not sure what you mean by sarcasm. None was intended. in fact I thought I was making a compliment that we were agreeing on something. Again sorry for any misunderstanding
Charles Smith
11:59 am on Saturday, September 15, 2012
No problem. It is difficult to express proper aloof humor with a written reply.
Lance Somers
7:10 am on Saturday, January 26, 2013
Not surprising; I used to trade at the little restaurant next door to the laundromat, that Karen person. . . nasty, nasty, nasty.